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[Post New]03/06/2013 07:56:53
    Subject: Why isn't Red Viper considered an Undisputed Champion?
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johnbludger

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While I was fixing up the lists I decided to look back at Red Vipers record and I came across this.

http://i572.photobucket.com/albums/ss166/W4MPyro/RedViper-1.jpg
John Record Wins-5341 Lost-2047 KOs-5203 Draw-35 Title Wins- 183 Title Defenses- 1025
JAB Record Wins- 1240 Loss- 160 KOs- 1197 Draw- 18 Title Wins- 25 Title Defenses- 83
Total Record Wins- 6581 Loss- 2207 KOs- 6400 Draw- 53

OB Style: "The John Style"

OB Status: Active

OB Member Since: May 2007

OB Accounts: john / James A. Braddock

OB Class: Hall of Fame

All-Time Winning Streak: 198

1x Superchamp
4x Undisputed champ
208x OB Champ- 1108 Defenses
23x OBA Champion Defenses- 104
35x OBC Champion Defenses- 139
128x OBF Champion Defenses- 830
10x OBW Champion Defenses- 6
12x Tournament Champion Defenses- 29

The Legend
The Beast
The Machine

"John represents the renaissance of OB. John stepped up and filled the vacuum Fatny left behind. Not only his skills are amazing, also his dedication to keep this game interesting and alive. I was there when he first won the title, I was watching over his shoulder when he bullied all competition, I was there when he became a HOF´er. I may not be a great fighter myself, but I do have eye for talent. John is something special, I told him right after he won his first title. John is the spark that became a flame that turned into a devastating fire. Apart from being a great guy he never stepped down from a challenge and always looked to square off against OB´s best to further improve his skills. Many HOF´ers made short comebacks during the year John reigned OB, only to be knocked out by Big Bad John." - Dick E. Boon

"The thing with John is that he's just so extremely accurate, both in offense and in defense. There's some punches I consider myself a master of, like the small hook and the long upper. Well they're useless against John no matter how well you throw them, he just keeps blocking 90% of them and hurting you in the process. Speaking of which...if he hurts you (and he will), you better move your head a lot because he also happens to be one of the best finishers i've ever seen. Basically if you're not extremely good AND creative, you'll end up on the floor. A fine addition to the hall of fame indeed." - Fatny
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[Post New]03/06/2013 12:37:00
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Well he achieved it when I was inactive and he didn't mention it on the statistics page so I was never aware of it. Ill add him now.
30 TIME OBW CHAMPION
19 TIME OBC CHAMPION
31 TIME OBA CHAMPION
47 TIME OBF CHAMPION
8 TIME EURO CHAMPION
1 TIME TOURNAMENT CHAMPION
1 TIME SUPERCHAMP & UNDISPUTED CHAMPION

DEFENCES: 373


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[Post New]03/06/2013 17:02:23
    Subject: Re:Why isn't Red Viper considered an Undisputed Champion?
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Yeah same here. Red Viper, whenever you see this, congrats to your very late achievement. Hopefully we can see the Viper once again this summer.
John Record Wins-5341 Lost-2047 KOs-5203 Draw-35 Title Wins- 183 Title Defenses- 1025
JAB Record Wins- 1240 Loss- 160 KOs- 1197 Draw- 18 Title Wins- 25 Title Defenses- 83
Total Record Wins- 6581 Loss- 2207 KOs- 6400 Draw- 53

OB Style: "The John Style"

OB Status: Active

OB Member Since: May 2007

OB Accounts: john / James A. Braddock

OB Class: Hall of Fame

All-Time Winning Streak: 198

1x Superchamp
4x Undisputed champ
208x OB Champ- 1108 Defenses
23x OBA Champion Defenses- 104
35x OBC Champion Defenses- 139
128x OBF Champion Defenses- 830
10x OBW Champion Defenses- 6
12x Tournament Champion Defenses- 29

The Legend
The Beast
The Machine

"John represents the renaissance of OB. John stepped up and filled the vacuum Fatny left behind. Not only his skills are amazing, also his dedication to keep this game interesting and alive. I was there when he first won the title, I was watching over his shoulder when he bullied all competition, I was there when he became a HOF´er. I may not be a great fighter myself, but I do have eye for talent. John is something special, I told him right after he won his first title. John is the spark that became a flame that turned into a devastating fire. Apart from being a great guy he never stepped down from a challenge and always looked to square off against OB´s best to further improve his skills. Many HOF´ers made short comebacks during the year John reigned OB, only to be knocked out by Big Bad John." - Dick E. Boon

"The thing with John is that he's just so extremely accurate, both in offense and in defense. There's some punches I consider myself a master of, like the small hook and the long upper. Well they're useless against John no matter how well you throw them, he just keeps blocking 90% of them and hurting you in the process. Speaking of which...if he hurts you (and he will), you better move your head a lot because he also happens to be one of the best finishers i've ever seen. Basically if you're not extremely good AND creative, you'll end up on the floor. A fine addition to the hall of fame indeed." - Fatny
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[Post New]03/06/2013 21:14:46
    Subject: Why isn't Red Viper considered an Undisputed Champion?
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lmao i already knew about that, viper was a great fighter but we have all grown up now and have jobs etc. Doubt he will ever come back, i am only just hangin on to this game but i know il be too busy soon.
Ive held 2 - 3 belts at a time a few times but it doesnt really matter that much,

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2 x UNDISPUTED CHAMP
TITLE HISTORY: 256 DEFENSES|TITLE WINS: 90
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[Post New]05/06/2013 00:22:39
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sterlihalla wrote:lmao i already knew about that, viper was a great fighter but we have all grown up now and have jobs etc. Doubt he will ever come back, i am only just hangin on to this game but i know il be too busy soon.
Ive held 2 - 3 belts at a time a few times but it doesnt really matter that much,


...and now change that drug-addicted ape-face avatar pic please, whoever you are.
[Post New]05/06/2013 01:07:22
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Titan wrote:
sterlihalla wrote:lmao i already knew about that, viper was a great fighter but we have all grown up now and have jobs etc. Doubt he will ever come back, i am only just hangin on to this game but i know il be too busy soon.
Ive held 2 - 3 belts at a time a few times but it doesnt really matter that much,


...and now change that drug-addicted ape-face avatar pic please, whoever you are.


LOL!

He looks like a miniature goblin wearing over-sized boxing gear.
30 TIME OBW CHAMPION
19 TIME OBC CHAMPION
31 TIME OBA CHAMPION
47 TIME OBF CHAMPION
8 TIME EURO CHAMPION
1 TIME TOURNAMENT CHAMPION
1 TIME SUPERCHAMP & UNDISPUTED CHAMPION

DEFENCES: 373


"Dark Destroyer" Nigel Benn





[Post New]09/06/2013 06:45:43
    Subject: Re:Why isn't Red Viper considered an Undisputed Champion?
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I was Undisputed Champion as well.

The reason that Viper and I weren't tallied is because apparently the criteria for Undisputed Champion changed.

It used to be 3 belts and one of the regional titles but I suppose that was retconned when they did away with them.



Anyway, I was an Undisputed Champion shortly before John became Superchamp.

In fact I was one fight away from being OB's 7th SUPERCHAMP and was TKO'd in the 13th round by Red Viper.
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I took Fatny's streak. 7/1/2008

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[Post New]09/06/2013 08:21:40
    Subject: Re:Why isn't Red Viper considered an Undisputed Champion?
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Yeah it checks out. Well now it is only considered 3 titles held to be an undisputed champ. I didn't even know that you had all 3 titles professor. Despite you beating me for one of those titles. Congrats Professor. Credit was long over due sadly. But anyways Professor, you ever thought about coming back to fight again? We need another veteran to come back fight against these new fighters.

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John Record Wins-5341 Lost-2047 KOs-5203 Draw-35 Title Wins- 183 Title Defenses- 1025
JAB Record Wins- 1240 Loss- 160 KOs- 1197 Draw- 18 Title Wins- 25 Title Defenses- 83
Total Record Wins- 6581 Loss- 2207 KOs- 6400 Draw- 53

OB Style: "The John Style"

OB Status: Active

OB Member Since: May 2007

OB Accounts: john / James A. Braddock

OB Class: Hall of Fame

All-Time Winning Streak: 198

1x Superchamp
4x Undisputed champ
208x OB Champ- 1108 Defenses
23x OBA Champion Defenses- 104
35x OBC Champion Defenses- 139
128x OBF Champion Defenses- 830
10x OBW Champion Defenses- 6
12x Tournament Champion Defenses- 29

The Legend
The Beast
The Machine

"John represents the renaissance of OB. John stepped up and filled the vacuum Fatny left behind. Not only his skills are amazing, also his dedication to keep this game interesting and alive. I was there when he first won the title, I was watching over his shoulder when he bullied all competition, I was there when he became a HOF´er. I may not be a great fighter myself, but I do have eye for talent. John is something special, I told him right after he won his first title. John is the spark that became a flame that turned into a devastating fire. Apart from being a great guy he never stepped down from a challenge and always looked to square off against OB´s best to further improve his skills. Many HOF´ers made short comebacks during the year John reigned OB, only to be knocked out by Big Bad John." - Dick E. Boon

"The thing with John is that he's just so extremely accurate, both in offense and in defense. There's some punches I consider myself a master of, like the small hook and the long upper. Well they're useless against John no matter how well you throw them, he just keeps blocking 90% of them and hurting you in the process. Speaking of which...if he hurts you (and he will), you better move your head a lot because he also happens to be one of the best finishers i've ever seen. Basically if you're not extremely good AND creative, you'll end up on the floor. A fine addition to the hall of fame indeed." - Fatny
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[Post New]10/06/2013 20:39:36
    Subject: Re:Why isn't Red Viper considered an Undisputed Champion?
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Professor wrote:I was Undisputed Champion as well.

The reason that Viper and I weren't tallied is because apparently the criteria for Undisputed Champion changed.

It used to be 3 belts and one of the regional titles but I suppose that was retconned when they did away with them.



Anyway, I was an Undisputed Champion shortly before John became Superchamp.

In fact I was one fight away from being OB's 7th SUPERCHAMP and was TKO'd in the 13th round by Red Viper.


To be Undisputed Champion it has always been to hold 3 of the 4 main titles.
30 TIME OBW CHAMPION
19 TIME OBC CHAMPION
31 TIME OBA CHAMPION
47 TIME OBF CHAMPION
8 TIME EURO CHAMPION
1 TIME TOURNAMENT CHAMPION
1 TIME SUPERCHAMP & UNDISPUTED CHAMPION

DEFENCES: 373


"Dark Destroyer" Nigel Benn





 
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