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EDDIE54

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ok and getting shot is worth something ANTIE WAR!!
?PEACE? i dont like wars just waste pepoles lives






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EDDIE54 wrote:ok and getting shot is worth something ANTIE WAR!!
?PEACE? i dont like wars just waste pepoles lives


I love wars. I'm sad I missed the last two, i heard they were awesome. It doesn't waste people's lives, i'd like to have an epic death if I'm gonna die, i'm pretty sure others would like one too.
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well thats stupid






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Without war the world would be very boring. Boxing/MMA wouldn't exist, all war games and film wouldn't exist, people like Hitler would have faced no opposition and would be free to do whatever. Still war is pretty shit as it drags people who clearly have no desire to fight and makes them target practice, but when you think about it war tests peoples ability to cope with fear and pain and some of history's idols were made because of a war so you shouldn't be so pessimistic about it. Modern war is pretty pointless though, due to most of it being fought with explosions and computers. As the Spartans believed, fighting with ranged weapons is for cowards, and that's pretty much every aspect of war now.

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i don't know what planet you guys are living on, but the planet im from, war is hell. if there was no war, there would be peace and happiness, and it would NOT be boring. maybe to you oscar, killing innocent people is considered fun, but to me it's fucking sick.

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Sure the actual fighting and killing involved in war is terrible but in the long term it's helped build a better world, for example the following wouldn't exist at all without war :-

- Resistance against corrupt leaders.
- Any sports involving physical contact, even sports like basketball would be seen as brutal and the roughest sport would be golf/netball.
- All war films/games.
- People like Alexander, Julius Caesar, Ghengis Khan, Themistocles wouldn't have had a chance to change a large proportion of the world for the better.
- If you think of all the technology that the Romans brought to the world that dramatically improved many peoples lives and even though they were involved in sooo many wars they also prevented many more by making the world a more civilized place, their empire was the first big step in making the world as peaceful as it is today.
- The fact that women find men that are well built more attractive than weak and skinny men would most likely not exist as it originated from women going for the men that were the strongest were the most effective in battle, so we'd have a world of skinny weak men.
- Multi-cultural communities.
- Forms of martial arts that are performed for entertainment purposes.

And remember without war people would barely appreciate peace.

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Oscar has a point, if there was no war Hitler would have taken over Europe and we would be speaking German o_O

catfish2 wrote:i don't know what planet you guys are living on, but the planet im from, war is hell. if there was no war, there would be peace and happiness, and it would NOT be boring. maybe to you oscar, killing innocent people is considered fun, but to me it's fucking sick.


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Ray Johnson wrote:Oscar has a point, if there was no war Hitler would have taken over Europe and we would be speaking German o_O


No, Hitler wouldn't have invaded anywhere as he wouldn't start a war, but he'd have certainly been free to selectively choose what goes in Germany though, meaning he'd probably have had sooo many people shot due to his beliefs, but no one would act as it would seem crazy to start war.

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Oscar wrote:
No, Hitler wouldn't have invaded anywhere as he wouldn't start a war, but he'd have certainly been free to selectively choose what goes in Germany though, meaning he'd probably have had sooo many people shot due to his beliefs, but no one would act as it would seem crazy to start war.


Yeah, he doesn't kill them in a war but shoots them -.- same thing. either way he would pwn europe.
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War is nothing like an FPS clown. It's just waiting around in heat until you have a short burst of fighting where you can die. And dying isn't fun, I came close to it I know.

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Ray Johnson wrote:
EDDIE54 wrote:ok and getting shot is worth something ANTIE WAR!!
?PEACE? i dont like wars just waste pepoles lives


I love wars. I'm sad I missed the last two, i heard they were awesome. It doesn't waste people's lives, i'd like to have an epic death if I'm gonna die, i'm pretty sure others would like one too.

a epic death wud be so cool like zack out of crisis core final fantasy 7 heres the link to the ending of that game.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2LS0NXcZN0
But anyway i wudnet wana die for this country uk i would rather die for a country i love but i do realise i have a slight possiblity of dieing while being in the army but i am not going to be fighting i will be a administrator and i will be boxing.

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Ray Johnson wrote:
EDDIE54 wrote:ok and getting shot is worth something ANTIE WAR!!
?PEACE? i dont like wars just waste pepoles lives


I love wars. I'm sad I missed the last two, i heard they were awesome. It doesn't waste people's lives, i'd like to have an epic death if I'm gonna die, i'm pretty sure others would like one too.


lets see the death rate of civilians in certain countries in world war 2.

Belgium= 49,600
czechoslovakia = 43,000
France = 267,000
Germany = 1,600,000
Greece = 220,000
Italy= 145,200
Russia = 11,400,000
UK = 67,800
USA = 1,700
Yugoslavia = 514,000

those were civilan deaths from waorld war 2.
these guys didnt have an epic death. they all got killed cause their countries were fighting each other. i dont think they wanted to go out while not even in the army/navy/air force/ marines. and yes all these peoples lives were wasted. cause what did they die for? they died for living in a certain county.
no offence but that might be the stupidest thing ive ever heard anyone say.

And you wouldnt be sad you missed the 1st two, because your family might have been in it, or one of these many civaliens that died.
oh you heard wars were awesome? i dunno where you go to school but im curious, what is awesome about war?

Also Hitler could not take over if there was no such thing as war, because he wouldnt have an army/ any military force.

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Well i dont agree with war either but i do think it is necessary for peace because some people only know war.

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M. A R A G O N wrote:
lets see the death rate of civilians in certain countries in world war 2.

Belgium= 49,600
czechoslovakia = 43,000
France = 267,000
Germany = 1,600,000
Greece = 220,000
Italy= 145,200
Russia = 11,400,000
UK = 67,800
USA = 1,700
Yugoslavia = 514,000

those were civilan deaths from waorld war 2.
these guys didnt have an epic death. they all got killed cause their countries were fighting each other. i dont think they wanted to go out while not even in the army/navy/air force/ marines. and yes all these peoples lives were wasted. cause what did they die for? they died for living in a certain county.
no offence but that might be the stupidest thing ive ever heard anyone say.


None taken The problem is i don't care about life or death because i'm agnostic (not emo). I don't think that there is a point to any of this. Hell, i don't even care about what happens to the world when i'm dead. Technically, i'm a reaper, with no sense of what other people feel. But i think it's more enjoyable to have people not continuously insulting me. The point is, all that matters to me, is me and that's why I don't care one bit about those people who died.

M. A R A G O N wrote:And you wouldnt be sad you missed the 1st two, because your family might have been in it, or one of these many civaliens that died. oh you heard wars were awesome? i dunno where you go to school but im curious, what is awesome about war?


Well, by hearing I mean, "The first world war was by far the most brutal". I can just imagine it, like Cloverfield.

M. A R A G O N wrote:Also Hitler could not take over if there was no such thing as war, because he wouldnt have an army/ any military force.


There can't, logically, be no such thing as war. War is just a large group of people fighting another large group of people. But for the sake of argument, there's no point in carrying on. I guess you're right. But i'm sure someone would have found a way to take over a continent without war (It could be Hitler). I still don't think Hitler is the issue here (read below)

Catfish wrote:I don't know what planet you guys are living on, but the planet im from, war is hell. if there was no war, there would be peace and happiness, and it would NOT be boring. maybe to you oscar, killing innocent people is considered fun, but to me it's fucking sick.


I'm just a 'sick' person because i've lost faith in purpose. I'm bored & apathetic, as death means nothing to me, war would be nothing but fun.

Professor wrote:War is nothing like an FPS clown. It's just waiting around in heat until you have a short burst of fighting where you can die. And dying isn't fun, I came close to it I know.


Dying slowly isn't fun. Dying in a shootout in a war is epic and I wouldn't mind it.

EDDIE54 wrote:well thats stupid


No it isn't. But what is, is that every other person replied with something logical and decent except for you. You reply with something that has no evidence/proof/w.e and is just an opinion that has next to no effect on anything. In your reply, write something that actually means something so that I can reply to it or don't write anything at all.

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Ray Johnson wrote:
M. A R A G O N wrote:
lets see the death rate of civilians in certain countries in world war 2.

Belgium= 49,600
czechoslovakia = 43,000
France = 267,000
Germany = 1,600,000
Greece = 220,000
Italy= 145,200
Russia = 11,400,000
UK = 67,800
USA = 1,700
Yugoslavia = 514,000

those were civilan deaths from waorld war 2.
these guys didnt have an epic death. they all got killed cause their countries were fighting each other. i dont think they wanted to go out while not even in the army/navy/air force/ marines. and yes all these peoples lives were wasted. cause what did they die for? they died for living in a certain county.
no offence but that might be the stupidest thing ive ever heard anyone say.


None taken The problem is i don't care about life or death because i'm agnostic (not emo). I don't think that there is a point to any of this. Hell, i don't even care about what happens to the world when i'm dead. Technically, i'm a reaper, with no sense of what other people feel. But i think it's more enjoyable to have people not continuously insulting me. The point is, all that matters to me, is me and that's why I don't care one bit about those people who died.

M. A R A G O N wrote:And you wouldnt be sad you missed the 1st two, because your family might have been in it, or one of these many civaliens that died. oh you heard wars were awesome? i dunno where you go to school but im curious, what is awesome about war?


Well, by hearing I mean, "The first world war was by far the most brutal". I can just imagine it, like Cloverfield.

M. A R A G O N wrote:Also Hitler could not take over if there was no such thing as war, because he wouldnt have an army/ any military force.


There can't, logically, be no such thing as war. War is just a large group of people fighting another large group of people. But for the sake of argument, there's no point in carrying on. I guess you're right. But i'm sure someone would have found a way to take over a continent without war (It could be Hitler). I still don't think Hitler is the issue here (read below)

Catfish wrote:I don't know what planet you guys are living on, but the planet im from, war is hell. if there was no war, there would be peace and happiness, and it would NOT be boring. maybe to you oscar, killing innocent people is considered fun, but to me it's fucking sick.


I'm just a 'sick' person because i've lost faith in purpose. I'm bored & apathetic, as death means nothing to me, war would be nothing but fun.

Professor wrote:War is nothing like an FPS clown. It's just waiting around in heat until you have a short burst of fighting where you can die. And dying isn't fun, I came close to it I know.


Dying slowly isn't fun. Dying in a shootout in a war is epic and I wouldn't mind it.

EDDIE54 wrote:well thats stupid


No it isn't. But what is, is that every other person replied with something logical and decent except for you. You reply with something that has no evidence/proof/w.e and is just an opinion that has next to no effect on anything. In your reply, write something that actually means something so that I can reply to it or don't write anything at all.

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